It doesnt exist because I say so! Logic acoording to Murdock

Its all a Fraud

Murdock , in her chapter on non biblical sources, sites the famous Jewish historian Flavius Josephus as a likely source to write about Jesus largely because he wrote during the first century. Reasoning that it seems logical that he would mention certainly in his writings , as a competent historian of the time, a prominent social, political and religious figure such as Jesus Christ . Murdock states in prelude that

 "there are basically no non-biblical references to a historical Jesus

 by any known historian of the time …" (4)

She cites Joseph Wheless author of Forgery in Christianity and Is It Gods Word? heavily. She writes:

 "Of Josephus and this stupid forgery."

 Harsh words that resound with contempt, not serious scholarly work as Murdock sees herself. Wheless says:

…Jesus the Christ-though some score of other Joshuas, or Jesuses , are recorded by him, nor does he mention any of his transcendent wonders… (5)

and then Murdock comes to the conclusion that

"Josephus is silent on the subject of Christ and Christianity" (4)

This is a puzzling conclusion given that Josephus states that Christ was a doer of "incredible things" granted this is brief and very broad , however "incredible things " is not a far stretch to "transcendent wonders", which is equally broad and brief. In addition, how can this paragraph in the writings of Josephus , under any stretch of the imagination, be considered "silent" on the matter of Christ and Christianity? It can be I suppose if you ignore the words , or without justification reduce them to stupid forgeries.

About this time lived Jesus, a man full of wisdom, if indeed one may call Him a man. For He was the doer of incredible things, and the teacher of such as gladly received the truth. He thus attracted to Himself many Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ. On the accusation of the leading men of our people, Pilate condemned Him to death upon the cross; nevertheless those who had previously loved Him still remained faithful to Him. For on the third day He again appeared to them living, just as, in addition to a thousand other marvellous things, prophets sent by God had foretold. And to the present day the race of those who call themselves Christians after Him has not ceased. (6)

If these statements have and are forgeries , yes it is highly important and relevant , however I can not take the word of Murdock that they are forgeries because she says so. Why are they thought to be so? Present this data . If it is compelling I too may draw the same conclusion, but given no evidence to back her claim other than citing Wheless , who is also “silent” on the whys is not good policy for a sincere truth seeker. Her primary source Wheels has the same tunnel vision in that he writes that “Josephus made no mention Of Jesus , called Christ.” I reference the writings from the Catholic Encyclopedia , a source favored by Murdock. Jesus, Christ, Christians are all mentioned once. Given this is thin at best and yes one would expect more on this matter, however it does not constitute non existence of reference!

The next chapter, Further Evidence of Fraud was nearly impossible for me to read , but it is rather easy to summarize, all and any references to Christ, Christianity or Jesus, no matter from whom , respected or not ….lied, made it up , forged it. A noted historian is Pliny The Younger….Fraud! Suetonius…another fraud!even the Jews Talmudic references to Jesus….”not reliable”. And as Murdock and Wheless allege that what is written about Christ is all a fraud , none of it exists! Soon one has to question the credibly of the source. I find it particularly disturbing how Murdock, in one breath, informs her reader that Josephus was forged by none other than Eusebius and she lets us know previously what a proficient forger he truly was. How did he forge? By inserting the text we read above that doesn’t exist in Murdock or Wheless world because it is forged. Then in the next chapter, first page, she uses his words, yes the forger Eusebius, to prove her statement. What statement?

“…in the face of criticism that Christianity was fabricated, Eusebius sought to demonstrate it was “novel or strange” by claiming it was based on older idea”,

writes Murdock. How can she in a few short pages claim he is the forger of the work that is one of the best substantiation for the existence of Christ , yet find credible any thing else he might write. Why would one give any merit to anything such a man , given true the haneous allegation of Fraud and interpolation (that is introduced or inserted), would write? How does she reconcile this paradox?

He believes that the idea of Christianity is based on older ideas. So? It is clear she uses what ever suits her means, including the words of alleged forgers. This is no defense by Eusebius either of a fabricated religion. Religions by their very nature will have similarities between one another, this does not mean that they sprouted from each other , or fabricated a fraud on the new religion. Treating one another with kindness, the golden rule, fairness, respect, restraint murder, thievery , these are not new concepts. They are older ideas, from the beginning of mans first awakening some might suspect. This is no way negates Christianity nor proves it is not fabricated. Poor logic at best .

Mudock cites Gerald Massey heavily in her fraud section and threw out her book, it is Massey who was the first writer to put forth the concept of Jesus = Horus in The Natural Genesis. I think it is important to note that the sources that are cited by Murdock are not primary sources. This is a theory put forth by Massey using his work to validate the same theory makes no sense. Let me make this simple analogy , I put forth that Jesus was a women. I am going to prove that this is true by my research and references which prove this to be true. then I proceed to cite another author whom believes that Jesus was a women. There , see it is true , the other writer and me agree! You are simply stupid if you can not see it. this type of condensation is seen from Murdock in her books and voids and to some extent in the Zeitgeist movies presentation as well.

1. His writings have influenced various later authors such as Alvin Boyd Kuhn, Tom Harpur, and Acharya S, that would be D. M. Murdock.

2. Some of the similarities that Massey claimed existed are that they both

3. Were born of virgins on December 25

4. Taught in a temple as a child at age 12

5. Were teachers who had 12 Disciples

6. Were baptized in a river

7. Gave a sermon on the mount

8. Healed the sick

9. Raised men from the dead (El-Asar-Us for Horus, Lazarus for Jesus)

10. Died by crucifixion

11. Were resurrected three days later. (9)

 

Thing start to get crazy when Murdock says it is a fact that Christians were considered criminals, not so much for their beliefs but for practices that include infantile and orgies. The Old Testament (OT) is stocked with condemnation for the practices of infantile to God Moloch (representing Semitic) מלך m-l-k, root meaning "king" the OT tells Christians in Leviticus 18:21: "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch" I. e don’t burn your children . Murdock sympathizes with the pagans and there ill treatment from the Christians.

Buddha Assertions

Appears the miracles are correct while the birthday is completely wrong, April 9 568 B.C. While many if not most allegations to the similaities to CHrist and the Buddha are present , one is offset when a truth is found, however in a court of law, when testifying , when the witness is found guilty of one or several lies, they are discredited and reduced to status of ‘incredible’ , namely nothing they say can be relied on as truth or accurate reporting. This is how we must view Murdock. The birthday allegation of Dec. 25 is absurd and as many “debunkers” have pointed out, it is irevantant . I taught my children , that Christmas eve and day were a symbolic day of Christs birth that correlated with the winter solstice when they were young children. It is nearly in the realm of common knowledge , even among devote Christians , that Christ was not born on Dec 25 th , that the chaloic church overlaid its Christian dates onto of pagan holidays to make the transition more palatable .

Laughing Buddha, found often in restaurants where children are encouraged to rub his tummy for good luck...

 

On this day, Buddhists celebrate the commemoration of the birth of Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, thought to have lived in India from 563 B.C. to 483 B.C. Actually, the Buddhist tradition that celebrates his birthday on April 8 originally placed his birth in the 11th century B.C., and it was not until the modern era that scholars determined that he was more likely born in the sixth century B.C., and possibly in May rather than April. (10)

miracles

On the first day Buddha held his toothpick, put it on the ground and it turned to the wish fulfilling tree. It was decorated with jewels, like a Christmas tree. On the second day Buddha manifested two wish fulfilling jewels. The third day the king offered to wash Buddha's feet. When Buddha washed his feet, he threw the water and it became a pool with the eight special qualities of water. Whoever drank or touched it were healed. Today there is a well there where small amounts of water are offered for sale. It is useful for treating disease. On the fourth day it rained and the rain filled the eight canals. The fifth day Buddha emitted golden light from his mouth and people could see beings of the six realms being liberated. On the sixth day Buddha transformed some energy and everyone became clairvoyant and knew each others minds. On the seventh day Buddha manifested as the wheel turning king and many people converted to Buddhism. Up to that time the Hindu teachers had not shown miracles. On the eighth day the gods from Indra's palace sponsored the meals. They served Buddha and made offerings to him. Buddha's hand pressed the side of his seat and a thundering sound was emitted. Five frightening giant cannibals came out of the ground and they went for the seats of the Hindu teachers. Vajrapani also threatened the Hindu teachers. The Hindu teachers ran away. Vajrapani manifested a great storm. It became a tornado which picked up the Hindu teachers and their retinues and tossed them in the water. 60,000 Hindus converted that day and many monks attained the arhat's state and understanding. The gods showered flowers. (11)

Where Murock loses all credibility is in her assertion in her book (page 110 ) that “In some traditions, he died on a cross”. When I researched this I found nothing. But when I see the source that Murdock references , it makes sense. She references Albert Pike! So what? Well Pike has an agenda , which is without doubt anti-Jesus, Christian …not atheists , but Luciferian this is the spokesman of the Free masons .

More from Pike~

Pike in 'Instructions' issued by him, on July 14, 1889, to the 23 Supreme Councils of the world and have been recorded by A. C. De La Rive in La Femme et l' Enfant dans la Franc-Maconnerie Universelle (page 588) from which book we translate and quote as follows :

"That which we must say to the crowd is – We worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition.

"To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees – The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.

"If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (The God of the Christians) whose deeds prove his cruelty, perfidy, and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests, calumniate him ?

" Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two Gods : darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive.

"In analogical and universal dynamics one can only lean on that which will resist. Thus the universe is balanced by two forces which maintain its equilibrium : the force of attraction and that of repulsion. These two forces exist in physics, philosophy and religion. And the scientific reality of the divine dualism is demonstrated by the phenomena of polarity and by the universal law of sympathies and antipathies. That is why the intelligent disciples of Zoroaster, as well as after them, the Gnostics, the Manicheans and the Templars have admitted, as the only logical metaphysical conception, the system of the two divine principles fighting eternally, and one cannot believe the one inferior in power to the other.

" Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil."

This is from a mans ideology that Murdock used in her Introduction as her first quote and then slips him as ‘in some traditions” , a secret society, brotherhood is considered a tradition? Buddha died on a cross. Only this lie would be propagated by Pike to deceive Christians into the same derailment that Zeitgeist presents in Part one. Jesus is not real, Jesus is simply a repeat story, myth of others, Murdock calls them “characters” or “major players” , such as Buddha, Attis,

*Can we trust a scholar you makes a video on selling you her newest calendar from her publishing company? Her videos and interviews are shamefully filled with self promotion and book sales.

Venus Project

Venus project splits with zeitgeist Venus project approved explanation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJbRM46tltI